Mike Oxsaw
5:23 Tue Feb 7
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Is the answer "Yes, we'll tighten the regulations on PL clubs, the Big 6 will all fuck off to the ESL and we'll have to raise the basic rate of income tax by 2p in the pound as a result"?
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Crassus
5:11 Tue Feb 7
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Will
By which I mean the obsession with FFP, they have already once admitted guilt and settled, then won a second case by technicality - this is far more serious by virtue of the alleged fraudulent measures taken to avoid falling foul of FFP a third time
That has a considerably graver outcome potential and isn't constrained by a statute of limitation that the sporting regulation FFP is
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Willtell
4:35 Tue Feb 7
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“ This is not a case of FFP breaches in any way”
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I’m not sure what you mean? Why have the PL investigated then?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
4:21 Tue Feb 7
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RB
That's not happening with Amazon, Netflix or Disney+
An idiotic failure on the part of all of them to recognise that offering a load of eye-wateringly expensive-to-make crap for £8 a month during a lockdown when nobody could do anything but watch telly, and then expecting subscription numbers to continue to increase exponentially (or even remain the same) as times returned to normal has rendered them all borassic. They simply don't have billions to chuck at an untried model. Amazon have dropped the Six Nations already, I think, though I might have that wrong.
DAZN is a million miles from profitability.
I can't speak for Apple, but I don't see they'd be any different.
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zico
3:54 Tue Feb 7
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If the Premier League have got them by the balls then they need to have the balls to do something big time, or it will just prove to the Government that Football can't regulate itself. If they haven't got City by the balls then you would have to ask what on earth were they investigating for four years. A fine isn't going to be any problem at all for City and had the punishment of not allowing Chelsea to buy players really punished them?
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RBshorty
3:45 Tue Feb 7
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Dirty money or not. It what keeps the world turning. And everyone involved in the beautiful game knows this.
Remember. "Money gets tight.The Shit gets real.!"
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RBshorty
3:41 Tue Feb 7
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Crassus.
If Amazon offer the SL for next to nothing.(Say.In with the cost of your Prime membership .) The viewership would go through the roof. And when the SL gets banded around next time. There will be a lot more teams invited to join straight out of the gate. That was the mistake they made last time. Thinking a dozen would be enough. Next time. It will be double that. With half the Premiership on the list.
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Any Old Iron
3:40 Tue Feb 7
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This is about arrogance on a huge scale. These Arabs actually think they are special and can corrupt national institutions with their dirty money!!
They have to be stopped.
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Crassus
3:28 Tue Feb 7
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RB
Sky is already a dead duck and BT were reported last year as withdrawing - I agree Amazon and the like are the future, but not necessarily with the SL
Eye numbers are dropping with the CL annually
I like the City quote - we shall see how it runs, it will take a while due to challenges but let's see
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RBshorty
3:16 Tue Feb 7
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With regards to the Super League. The great big elephant in the room is Amazon and Apple. Both want top tier sports streaming on their sites. All the leagues and teams around the globe know this. Nothing is stopping them from blowing everyone out of the water.For the streaming rights for 10-20 years. Then basically steaming it for the first few years for free.! Bye,bye Sky Sport. BT Sport. And everyone else. UEFA only option. Is to have more teams playing in Europe and spread the money around.
As for Manchester City punishment .? As Walter White told his brother in law. "If you think you know who I am. My best advice is. Tread carefully."
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Crassus
3:04 Tue Feb 7
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Alex
If the alleged allegations are proven then a bloody great YES from me
Surface
I'm not legally qualified but have an understanding of these events.
First Juve; the Italian government are not involved by virtue of persistent leniency. They are involved as a consequence of corporate fraud by a publically quoted company, a serious issue of law and deep shit for the directors
City; clearly not heard all of the allegations but of those quoted, two at least correspond with damning elements of the Juve case - diversion of salary payment, mitigating corporate liability and correspondingly deliberate inflation of income statements
This translates to money laundering, tax evasion, corporate fraud, corporate deception
In Italy, Juve have admitted guilt, their mitigation being 'they are all at it' - be that as maybe, the FA docked points, case closed, from the FA. BUT NOT LEGALLY, the state are preparing a prosecution case against the company and it's directorate
Now over here, City can't mitigate, they have aggravating circumstances in a decade long deception and resistance policy and the timing of the PL announcement need be considered with the government's regulation plans, which I add were immediately adjusted following the PL announcement
This is not a case of FFP breaches in any way
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dealcanvey
2:57 Tue Feb 7
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Over 100 rules broken.
Alot more than a fine is needed.
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Willtell
2:49 Tue Feb 7
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Good point Surface. Doesn’t it also mean the owners are not fit to run a football club?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
2:32 Tue Feb 7
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Is there a legal expert on here? I would have thought that Man City, in breaking the rules of the competition and commercial venture they are part of are guilty of breach of contract and possibly fraud.
I believe the Italian government, fed up with the serial leniency with which Juventus are treated, is about to pursue that route.
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Alex G
2:27 Tue Feb 7
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Is anyone realistically expecting their punishment to be anything more than a find for a couple of million or so?
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Crassus
2:08 Tue Feb 7
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:33 Tue Feb 7
Agree with the post, excepting France, it's not inherently a football nation
But the point stands fair, take a look at ECL attendances across Spain, Italy, Germany which absolutely are. Poor and getting poorer, specifically in the dead rubber games. Can you imagine just how many dead rubbers there will be in a SL without relegation?
Bloody Hell Spurs would play nothing but dead rubbers
And as was said, the removal of SL clubs would actually benefit domestic leagues, specifically those second/third tier leagues where the same clubs CL qualify every year and trouser all the proceeds, many leagues have been utterly neutered as a consequence
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Far Cough
1:38 Tue Feb 7
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Let's see how many of the "stars of Manchester City" stay on in the fizzy and a round trip to Stoke fucking City on a cold wet November night.
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goose
1:23 Tue Feb 7
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might as well play the games in Asia and the Middle East.
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Eerie Descent
1:17 Tue Feb 7
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Those 6 clubs fucking off to form a European Super League would be the best thing to ever happen in football.
It would mean the rest of English football would go back to something like it used to be, and we'd be in with a great chance of winning trophies in what would be a really competitive.
The football would be down on quality but still very good, and the games less tactical and much more exciting, with a lot more home grown players involved. Bring it on.
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Serious Drinking
1:08 Tue Feb 7
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The breaches, ignoring rules, deception, refusing to cooperate are extensive and go back more than a decade. Apparently they had Mancini & certain players on shadow contracts getting paid by another club.
What I want to know is if they get relegated, as they should do, would that eat up one of the relegation spots and help us out a bit?
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Willtell
12:45 Tue Feb 7
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Well Surface. Firstly can I say that I don't live in France but that's not important.
I think that you mistake the 95% of the French that don't support PSG wouldn't watch them on TV anyway. However, the 95% of Parisians that do support them would be keen to see them beat Chelsea 2 or 3 times a year same as we do. They might even prefer it to seeing a walkover against Angers or Auxerre...
The French 95% that don't support PSG will continue to support their local club badly as they currently do.
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